‘Points Guy’ Explains How To Get The Most Value On Airline Tickets, Flyer Miles | Megyn Kelly TODAY

SECRETS OF GETTING A BIGGER BANG
FOR YOUR TRAVEL BUCK. FOR YOUR TRAVEL BUCK. ALL THAT AND MORE ON "MEGYN
KELLY TODAY," RIGHT NOW.GYN KELLY TODAY," RIGHT NOW.
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HI, THERE. HI, THERE.
HEY, EVERYBODY. HEY, EVERYBODY. WELCOME. WELCOME. WELCOME TO THE SHOW, EVERYBODY. WELCOME TO THE SHOW, EVERYBODY. IM MEGYN KELLY. IM MEGYN KELLY. ITS GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE. ITS GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE. TODAY, WE HAVE ONE OF THE MOST TODAY, WE HAVE ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS MENTALISTS IN THE
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PERFORMING LIVE. FIRST UP, RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU FIRST UP, RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU HAVE FREQUENT FLYER FILEMILES AN
HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO CASH THEM AN HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO CASH THEM
IN? IN? I THINK THEY MAKE IT I THINK THEY MAKE IT INTENTIONALLY HARD. INTENTIONALLY HARD. WITH AIRLINES, TRAVEL DATES, WITH AIRLINES, TRAVEL DATES, RESTRICTIONS, USING THE POINTS RESTRICTIONS, USING THE POINTS CAN BE VERY CONFUSING. CAN BE VERY CONFUSING. HERE TO HELP US GET MORE BANG HERE TO HELP US GET MORE BANG FOR OUR TRAVEL BUCKS IS BRIAN
KELLY.R TRAVEL BUCKS IS BRIAN KELLY.

HES THE CEO AND FOUNDER OF THE
WEBSITE THE POINTS GUY. OF THE WEBSITE THE POINTS GUY.
HEY. HEY. HOW ARE YOU DOING? HOW ARE YOU DOING? >> HOW ARE YOU? >> HOW ARE YOU? >> GOOD TO SEE YOU. >> GOOD TO SEE YOU. COME ON OVER.
FIRST OF ALL, DO YOU BELIEVE IT FIRST OF ALL, DO YOU BELIEVE IT
IS BY DESIGN THAT IT IS HARD TO IS BY DESIGN THAT IT IS HARD TO
CASH IN THE POINTS.

CASH IN THE POINTS.
>> IT IS HARD TO CASH IN THE >> IT IS HARD TO CASH IN THE
POINT BUS NOT IMPOSSIBLES BUT NO POINT BUS NOT IMPOSSIBLES BUT NO
I SAVED $7,500 ON FLIGHTS. I SAVED $7,500 ON FLIGHTS.
PEOPLE JUST GIVE UP. PEOPLE JUST GIVE UP.
PEOPLE THINK, I CAN NEVER USE MY PEOPLE THINK, I CAN NEVER USE MY
PAINT S PAINT S
POINTS. POINTS.
YOU CAN AND THEYRE VALUABLE. YOU CAN AND THEYRE VALUABLE.
>> YOU SAY THERES SOME WEBSITE >> YOU SAY THERES SOME WEBSITE
THAT CAN HELP US. THAT CAN HELP US.
WHATS THAT? WHATS THAT?
>> THERES TWO DIFFERENT THINGS >> THERES TWO DIFFERENT THINGS
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TODAY. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TODAY.
ONE IS SAVING ON AIRFARE.

ONE IS SAVING ON AIRFARE.
WHO HATES PAYING TOO MUCH FOR WHO HATES PAYING TOO MUCH FOR
AIRFARE? AIRFARE? THE BIGGEST THING IN SEARCHING
FOR AIRFARE.THING IN SEARCHING FOR AIRFARE.
ITS FREE AND ITS CALLED GOOGLE ITS FREE AND ITS CALLED GOOGLE
FLIGHTS. FLIGHTS. WHAT GOOGLE FLIGHTS WILL LET YOU
DO.T GOOGLE FLIGHTS WILL LET YOU DO. I JUST NEED TO GET AWAY.
I DONT CARE WHERE IT IS. I DONT CARE WHERE IT IS.
[ APPLAUSE ] [ APPLAUSE ] >> FEELING THAT RIGHT NOW.
FEELING THAT IN THIS MOMENT. FEELING THAT IN THIS MOMENT.
>> ESPECIALLY IF ITS FREEZING >> ESPECIALLY IF ITS FREEZING
COLD AND I NEED TO GET TO A COLD AND I NEED TO GET TO A
BEACH.

BEACH. GOOGLE FLIGHTS HAS A MAP FEATURE
THAT SAYS, IM LEAVING FROMEATURE THAT SAYS, IM LEAVING FROM
CHICAGO, AND IT WILL SHOW YOU CHICAGO, AND IT WILL SHOW YOU
ALL THE CITIES YOU CAN FLY AND ALL THE CITIES YOU CAN FLY AND
THE PRICES THAT YOU CAN GO. THE PRICES THAT YOU CAN GO.
YOU MAY SEE A CITY IN FLORIDA YOU MAY SEE A CITY IN FLORIDA
YOUVE NEVER BEEN TO. YOUVE NEVER BEEN TO.
AND MY TIP IS GO SOMEWHERE NEW. AND MY TIP IS GO SOMEWHERE NEW.
DONT GO TO THE SAME OLD SPOTS DONT GO TO THE SAME OLD SPOTS
THAT ARE REALLY EXPENSIVE. THAT ARE REALLY EXPENSIVE.
EVEN PUERTO RICO IS BACK UP FOR EVEN PUERTO RICO IS BACK UP FOR
BUSINESS. BUSINESS. IT MAY NOT BE EXACTLY WHAT IT
WAS.AY NOT BE EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS. LETS SUPPORT PUERTO RICO.
>> INDULGE YOUR WANDERLUST. >> INDULGE YOUR WANDERLUST.
YOU ARE SAYING WE SHOULD TRY YOU ARE SAYING WE SHOULD TRY
BOOKING ON FOREIGN WEBSITES? BOOKING ON FOREIGN WEBSITES?
>> THIS IS THE CRAZY THING.

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>> THIS IS THE CRAZY THING.
THIS IS LIKE AN INSIDER TIP. THIS IS LIKE AN INSIDER TIP.
IT MAY TAKE A SECOND TO WRAP IT MAY TAKE A SECOND TO WRAP
YOUR HEAD AROUND IT. YOUR HEAD AROUND IT.
THERE ARE WEBSITES — THE U.S. THERE ARE WEBSITES — THE U.S.
DOLLAR IS REALLY STRONG RIGHT DOLLAR IS REALLY STRONG RIGHT
NOW. NOW. IF YOU BOOK IN FOREIGN
CURRENCY — YOU WANT TO GO TO CURRENCY — YOU WANT TO GO TO
LONDON, NEW YORK TO LONDON ON LONDON, NEW YORK TO LONDON ON
NORWEGIAN AIR. NORWEGIAN AIR.
NORWEGIAN IS ONE OF THE TOP NORWEGIAN IS ONE OF THE TOP
EXPANDING AIRLINES IN THE U.S. EXPANDING AIRLINES IN THE U.S.
THEY HAVE REALLY CHEAP FARES. THEY HAVE REALLY CHEAP FARES.
ITS $390 IF YOU BOOK IN U.S. ITS $390 IF YOU BOOK IN U.S.
DOLLARS. DOLLARS. IF YOU CLICK YOUR COUNTRY IS
NORWAY, IT WILL CHANGE THEIS NORWAY, IT WILL CHANGE THE
WEBSITE INTO NORWEGIAN, YOU CAN WEBSITE INTO NORWEGIAN, YOU CAN
SAVE 20% BY PAYING IN NORWEGIAN SAVE 20% BY PAYING IN NORWEGIAN
KRONA.

KRONA. A $390 TICKET DROPS.
SAME FLIGHT TO $322. SAME FLIGHT TO $322.
>> HOW DO YOU NAVIGATE THE >> HOW DO YOU NAVIGATE THE
LANGUAGE? LANGUAGE? >> GOOGLE TRANSLATE.
IT SOUNDS CRAZY BUT ITS LIKE IT SOUNDS CRAZY BUT ITS LIKE
SAVING MONEY. SAVING MONEY.
SAVING 20%. SAVING 20%.
>> THATS VERY GOOD TO KNOW. >> THATS VERY GOOD TO KNOW.
WHAT ABOUT THE DREADED WHAT ABOUT THE DREADED
NONREFUNDABLE TICKET THAT YOU NONREFUNDABLE TICKET THAT YOU
KNOW YOURE GOING TO LOSE MONEY KNOW YOURE GOING TO LOSE MONEY
IF YOU CANCEL. IF YOU CANCEL.
BUT SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO BUT SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO
CANCEL. CANCEL. >> THE AIRLINES WILL CHARGE YOU
$250 TO CHANGE YOUR TICKET. YOU $250 TO CHANGE YOUR TICKET.
IT CAN BE MORE THAN THE ACTUAL IT CAN BE MORE THAN THE ACTUAL
PRICE.

PRICE. I CALLED THE AIRLINE. I CALLED THE AIRLINE. THEY ARE LIKE, YOU OWE US MONEY THEY ARE LIKE, YOU OWE US MONEY TO CANCEL THE TICKET. TO CANCEL THE TICKET. >> I REFUSE. >> I REFUSE. >> I BOOK FLIGHTS ALL THE TIME.
IF YOU KNOW YOUR TICKET IS GOING IF YOU KNOW YOUR TICKET IS GOING
TO GET CANCELED, WAIT. TO GET CANCELED, WAIT.
THE AIRLINES CAN CHANGE THE THE AIRLINES CAN CHANGE THE
SCHEDULE AROUND. SCHEDULE AROUND.
THEY DO THAT ALL THE TIME. THEY DO THAT ALL THE TIME.
IF THEY CHANGE THE SCHEDULE BY IF THEY CHANGE THE SCHEDULE BY
FIVE MINUTES AND SAY, THAT FIVE MINUTES AND SAY, THAT
FIVE-MINUTE CHANGE DOESNT WORK FIVE-MINUTE CHANGE DOESNT WORK
FOR ME AND THEY WILL REFUND YOU.

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FOR ME AND THEY WILL REFUND YOU.
>> YOURE PLAYING THE ODDS. >> YOURE PLAYING THE ODDS.
YOU KNOW YOU HAVE TO CANCEL. YOU KNOW YOU HAVE TO CANCEL.
YOURE NOT GOING TO TAKE YOUR YOURE NOT GOING TO TAKE YOUR
TRIP. TRIP. YOURE BETTING THEYRE GOING TO YOURE BETTING THEYRE GOING TO SCREW UP. SCREW UP. >> EXACTLY. >> EXACTLY. IF YOU CANCEL AND LOSE THE IF YOU CANCEL AND LOSE THE VALUE, YOUVE ALREADY LOST.
WATCH THAT FLIGHT.DY LOST. WATCH THAT FLIGHT.
IF THERES A BIG BLIZZARD IF THERES A BIG BLIZZARD
COMING, YOU CAN CALL AND SAY, COMING, YOU CAN CALL AND SAY,
THERES A BLIZZARD COMING, DO THERES A BLIZZARD COMING, DO
YOU MIND CANCELLING? YOU MIND CANCELLING?
AND YOU WOULD BE SHOCKED. AND YOU WOULD BE SHOCKED.
MY MAIN TIP TODAY IS BE NICE. MY MAIN TIP TODAY IS BE NICE.
IF YOURE A JERK — IVE CALLED IF YOURE A JERK — IVE CALLED
AIRLINE AGENTS, CHARMED THEM A AIRLINE AGENTS, CHARMED THEM A
LITTLE BIT. LITTLE BIT.
SAY, I KNOW TODAY HAS BEEN CRAZY SAY, I KNOW TODAY HAS BEEN CRAZY
FOR YOU.

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FOR YOU. IT NEVER HURTS TO ASK.
AND IN THE AIRPORT, IF YOUR AND IN THE AIRPORT, IF YOUR
FLIGHT IS CANCELED, I KNOW YOU FLIGHT IS CANCELED, I KNOW YOU
WANT TO SCREAM AT THAT PERSON. WANT TO SCREAM AT THAT PERSON.
I SEE IT ALL THE TIME. I SEE IT ALL THE TIME.
THE NICE PEOPLE WIN. THE NICE PEOPLE WIN.
IF YOURE ACTUALLY NICE, THOSE IF YOURE ACTUALLY NICE, THOSE
PEOPLE WORK SO HARD, THEY DONT PEOPLE WORK SO HARD, THEY DONT
GET PAID A LOT OF MONEY.

GET PAID A LOT OF MONEY.
AND THEY DONT WANT YOUR FLIGHT AND THEY DONT WANT YOUR FLIGHT
TO BE CANCELED. TO BE CANCELED.
CHANGE YOUR MINDSET AND YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR MINDSET AND YOU CAN
GET THAT LAST SEAT ON THE NEXT GET THAT LAST SEAT ON THE NEXT
FLIGHT OUT. FLIGHT OUT.
>> ONE TIME, MY HUSBAND AND I >> ONE TIME, MY HUSBAND AND I
WERE CHECKING INTO A HOTEL, WITH WERE CHECKING INTO A HOTEL, WITH
OUR YOUNG KIDS. OUR YOUNG KIDS.
AND THEY HAD GIVEN AWAY OUR AND THEY HAD GIVEN AWAY OUR
ROOM. ROOM. WE HAD PAID IN ADVANCE.
WE HAVE THREE LITTLE KIDS. WE HAVE THREE LITTLE KIDS.
WE DONT KNOW WHERE WERE GOING WE DONT KNOW WHERE WERE GOING
TO GO, AND I GOT LATE RUDE WITHA TO GO, AND I GOT LATE RUDE WITHA
WITH THE WOMAN.

WITH THE WOMAN.
EVENTUALLY, THEY FOUND US A EVENTUALLY, THEY FOUND US A
ROOM. ROOM. WE WENT TO THE ROOM. WE WENT TO THE ROOM. I WENT BACK DOWN AND SAID, IM I WENT BACK DOWN AND SAID, IM SORRY. SORRY. I WAS JUST STRESSED OUT. I WAS JUST STRESSED OUT. I HAVE THREE KIDS AND I DIDNT I HAVE THREE KIDS AND I DIDNT MEAN TO BE RUDE. MEAN TO BE RUDE. AND SHE WAS NICE. AND SHE WAS NICE. IT WAS LIKE, I FELT BETTER AND IT WAS LIKE, I FELT BETTER AND SHE FELT BETTER.
SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, YOUR BETTER SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, YOUR BETTER
ANGELS ARENT THERE WHEN YOU ANGELS ARENT THERE WHEN YOU
NEED THEM AND THEY COME LATER.

NEED THEM AND THEY COME LATER.
>> HOTELS CAN WALK YOU FROM — >> HOTELS CAN WALK YOU FROM —
THATS WHAT WE CALL IT IN THE THATS WHAT WE CALL IT IN THE
INDUSTRY, YOURE GETTING WALKED. INDUSTRY, YOURE GETTING WALKED.
IF YOURE CHECKING IN LATE AT IF YOURE CHECKING IN LATE AT
THE HOTEL, CALL AND SAY IM THE HOTEL, CALL AND SAY IM
CHECKING IN LATE. CHECKING IN LATE. AS THE DAY GOES ON, THEY THINK,
THIS PERSON IS NOT GOING TO SHOW THIS PERSON IS NOT GOING TO SHOW
UP. UP.
LETS CHARGE SOMEONE ELSE. LETS CHARGE SOMEONE ELSE.
>> LETS TALK ABOUT POINTS. >> LETS TALK ABOUT POINTS.
I DONT KNOW HOW TO CASH THEM I DONT KNOW HOW TO CASH THEM
IN. IN. ITS OVERWHELMING TO ME.
>> POINTS, YOU NEED TO THINK OF >> POINTS, YOU NEED TO THINK OF
POINTS AS CURRENCY.

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POINTS AS CURRENCY.
WHEN YOU FLY, PUT YOUR FREQUENT WHEN YOU FLY, PUT YOUR FREQUENT
FLIER COUNT ON YOUR ACCOUNT, FLIER COUNT ON YOUR ACCOUNT,
RIGHT? RIGHT? A LOT OF PEOPLE, IM NOT SAYING
YOURE A POINTS HORDER.T SAYING YOURE A POINTS HORDER.
>> WHAT? >> WHAT? >> THATS WHAT WE CALL PEOPLE
THAT ACUE POINTS AND NEVER USE THAT ACUE POINTS AND NEVER USE
THEM. THEM. >> YES. >> YES. >> POINTS ARE VALUABLE.
AND THERES A LOT OF MYTHS AND THERES A LOT OF MYTHS
AROUND THEM. AROUND THEM.
PEOPLE THINK THEY CANT USE PEOPLE THINK THEY CANT USE
THEM. THEM. BUT WHEN YOU CHECK AN AIRLINE BUT WHEN YOU CHECK AN AIRLINE WEBSITE TO USE YOUR MILES, WEBSITE TO USE YOUR MILES, AIRLINE WEBSITES LIE.

AIRLINE WEBSITES LIE. THAT MAY COME AS A SHOCK. THAT MAY COME AS A SHOCK. THEYRE NOT SHOWING YOU ALL THE THEYRE NOT SHOWING YOU ALL THE AWARD AVAILABILITY. AWARD AVAILABILITY. AIRLINES HAVE PARTNERS. AIRLINES HAVE PARTNERS. THEY HAVE ALLIANCE PARTNERS AND
ALL THE OTHER PARTNERS.NERS AND ALL THE OTHER PARTNERS.
BUT THE SYSTEMS DONT TALK TO BUT THE SYSTEMS DONT TALK TO
EACH OTHER. EACH OTHER. IF YOURE SEARCHING TO GO TO IF YOURE SEARCHING TO GO TO HONG KONG, I THERE MAY BE AN HONG KONG, I THERE MAY BE AN ASIAN CHARACTER THAT HAS
AWARDABILITY.ER THAT HAS AWARDABILITY.

>> HOW DO YOU FIGURE THAT OUT?
>> ITS CRAZY TO THINK ABOUT IN >> ITS CRAZY TO THINK ABOUT IN
THIS DAY AND AGE, CALLING AN THIS DAY AND AGE, CALLING AN
AIRLINE. AIRLINE. BEING NICE AND CALLING AN BEING NICE AND CALLING AN AIRLINE AND SAYING CAN YOU
SEARCH ON PARTNERS.CAN YOU SEARCH ON PARTNERS.
>> SEARCH ON PARTNERS? >> SEARCH ON PARTNERS?
>> CALL UP AND SAY, I WOULD LIKE >> CALL UP AND SAY, I WOULD LIKE
YOU TO SEARCH. YOU TO SEARCH. IM TRYING TO GO TO HONG KONG. IM TRYING TO GO TO HONG KONG. AND CAN YOU SEARCH ON THE
PARTNER?YOU SEARCH ON THE PARTNER? IF YOU DO A LITTLE RESEARCH AND IF YOU DO A LITTLE RESEARCH AND YOU KNOW WHO THE PARTNERS ARE TO
BEGIN WITH.O THE PARTNERS ARE TO BEGIN WITH. HERES THE KICKER, WHEN YOU BOOK HERES THE KICKER, WHEN YOU BOOK USING MILES AT PARTNERS, ITS USING MILES AT PARTNERS, ITS THE LOWEST LEVEL POSSIBLE. THE LOWEST LEVEL POSSIBLE. YOU THINK, WHY ARENT THE YOU THINK, WHY ARENT THE AIRLINE SYSTEMS TALKING TO EACH AIRLINE SYSTEMS TALKING TO EACH OTHER? OTHER? THEY DONT WANT YOU TO KNOW THEY DONT WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT.

THAT. >> SO, I THINK WHAT WEVE >> SO, I THINK WHAT WEVE LEARNED HERE TODAY, YOU SHOULD LEARNED HERE TODAY, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE A GLASS OF WINE PROBABLY HAVE A GLASS OF WINE BEFORE YOU MAKE THIS CALL. BEFORE YOU MAKE THIS CALL. PUT ON GOOD TV TO RIDE YOU PUT ON GOOD TV TO RIDE YOU THROUGH THE THREE HOURS IT WILL THROUGH THE THREE HOURS IT WILL TAKE TO GET THROUGH IT. TAKE TO GET THROUGH IT. AND MAINTAIN YOUR HAPPY FACE.
>> YES.NTAIN YOUR HAPPY FACE.

>> YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH..

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